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發信人: carlwt@Palmarama (whatever) 站內: Basketball
標 題: Bill Walton: Shame on you, Shaq.
發信站: 台大計中椰林風情站 (Sat Jan 18 17:56:02 2003)


有一篇關於大歐污辱姚明的評論。Bill Walton寫的。俠客似乎用中文
罵了很不雅的話，文中說，如果俠客是你十歲的兒子，說出這種話，妳會
如何處置？所以他可能罵了家長教小孩不能說的話吧。(If Shaq were
your 10-year-old child, what would you do or say to him after
making such comments?) 其中也帶有種族歧視的意涵吧，所以作者說如果
姚明也對俠客的種族出言不訓，一定會被（黑人）極力聲討，然而那些平
日吵鬧種族歧視議題的黑人領袖並未對俠客的失言置一詞，所以作者問「
他們都到哪兒去了？」(Where is Jessie Jackson? Where is Al
Sharpton? Where is Johnnie Cochran?)

來源：
http://espn.go.com/nba/columns/walton_bill/1493849.html


Thursday, January 16
Updated: January 18, 2:42 AM ET

Shaq should've thought before he spoke

--------------------------------------------------------------
By Bill Walton
Special to ESPN.com


How many ears must one man have before he can hear people cry?

Although the comments have been reported before, the recent
release of recordings of Shaquille O'Neal mocking, criticizing
and generally disrespecting Yao Ming are startling.

How disappointing for Shaq -- he should know better. He's the
leader of the NBA and you expect more from him. Can you imagine
Bill Russell, Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, Magic, Hakeem or David
Robinson saying anything like this?

We constantly hear from people like Shaq that they want to be
respected. Well, to get respect, you must give respect. We live
in a world and society where diversity needs to be encouraged not
discouraged. If Shaq were your 10-year-old child, what would you
do or say to him after making such comments?

What if Yao Ming had said something about Shaq's ethnicity? You
can imagine the outcry and it would be justified. But it has to
cut both ways. Where is Jessie Jackson? Where is Al Sharpton?
Where is Johnnie Cochran?

Yao Ming has far too much class to get involved in this nonsense
but you know it has to hurt. With the way he has been mistreated,
manhandled and butchered by so many for simply coming here to play
basketball -- something he was asked to do -- he must be asking
himself, "What is going on here?"

There is no place in our world for Shaq's intolerance and
insensitivity. And this from a man who has as much experience and
knowledge in dealing with the media as anyone alive today. Shaq is
a man who has obviously been teased and made fun of a lot in his
life because he is visually different from what some consider the
"norm." He can't like it when it happens to him -- so why this?

If that is what he is saying publicly ... then what can he be
thinking privately?

And as far as Shaq's "apology" is concerned, well, I don't get it
when someone says, "IF I offended anyone, I'm sorry." That tactic
really worked well for Trent Lott.

But is this any worse than what the Miami Heat did when Yao Ming
came to play in South Florida and the Heat -- as a promotion --
handed out fortune cookies? You can never ignore or rank levels
of intolerance of any nature.

Just remember the quote on the wall at the Holocaust Museum in our
Washington, D.C. that tells the story of the people who didn't
complain or object to the mistreatment of others. Their final
lament was "That when they finally came for me, there was nobody
left to comp

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轉貼一：
Here and Yao
By Charley Rosen
Page 2 columnist

By now Yao Ming has been around the league twice and NBA insiders have been
able to chart his every plus and minus. And since he's on his way to becoming
the West's starting center in the forthcoming All-Star game, it's time to
carefully scrutinize his game. And so, on to the definitive scouting report:

SIZE AND STRENGTH: At 7-foot-5 and 296 pounds, Yao is certainly a colossus.
(Shawn Bradley is an inch taller, but 30 pounds lighter.) "Yao is far from
being a weakling," says one NBA assistant coach, "but he's not nearly in the
same class as the real powerhouse players, like Shaq and Sabonis. I think that
Yao is in desperate need of some heavy-duty weight work, especially for his
legs. That's because his center of gravity is so high that too many guys can
get underneath him and move him off his spot."

SHOOTING: Don't be fooled by the fact that Yao leads the league in field goal
percentage. (Wilt Chamberlain led the league in FG percentage nine times despite
being one of the worst "pure" shooters ever.) Early in the season, Yao was
plugging jumpers galore -- but then the scouts spotted something of a flaw in
his release and made adjustments.

"He's got a little too much left hand on the ball when he sets up his shot,"
says another assistant, "which means his release is just a bit slow. Because
he fades away on almost every jump shot, his shot is virtually unblockable --
although Golden State's Antawn Jamison did smack a TAJ in a game in Houston
(on 1/4). At the same time, Yao isn't used to playing against guys who are big,
long and quick enough to challenge his jumpers. The result is that he's now
rushing a lot of shots, and his jump-shooting accuracy is taking a nosedive.
Still, he gets plenty of dunks, which are always high-percentage shots."

Yao also has difficulty unloosing a viable shot when he catches the ball on the
move in crowded quarters. The solution here is for Yao to improve his jump-hook
technique, or even develop a sky-hook, thereby allowing him to use his off-arm
to keep opponents away from his body.


PASSING: This is the most highly evolved of his skills. He has extraordinary
court sense, i.e., knowing where all the players are and where they're headed,
and he's so big that most defenders are unable to block his vision. Yao's
repertoire includes behind-the-back and over-the-head no-look passes, all
delivered with a wonderful touch. He has also revived the long bounce-pass, a
lost art in the NBA. (In many cases, bounce passes are more effective than
"baseball" passes, because the ball comes up to the receiver and is easier to
catch. Bounce passes are also generally more accurate and, because the ball is
constantly moving through a vertical plane at ever-changing angles, more
difficult to intercept. The trick is to throw the long bounce-pass hard and high
enough so that the ball doesn't skid along the floor.)

But he's a rookie, of course, so his timing frequently gets upset by the speed
of the game. The result is that many passes are delivered just a tick too late.
This is especially true of his outlet passes.

However, the single most impressive aspect of Yao's passing game is his profound
unselfishness.

LOW-POST MOVES: When he tries to settle into a low-post position, he frequently
gets pushed a step or two off the box. But his big, powerful hands make him a
great receiver. He favors a TAJ, an effective shot, although his fadeaway follow-
through moves him away from the boards and eliminates the possibility of
rebounding his own misses. He spins slowly but tightly to either baseline or the
middle, and with his long arms can effectively use both sides of the baske

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發信人: oboh@Palmarama (小鬼) 看板: Basketball
標 題: Re: Bill Walton: Shame on you, Shaq.
發信站: 台大計中椰林風情站 (Tue Jan 21 19:47:42 2003)

==> carlwt (whatever) 提到:
> 漏了一段原文，補述如下：
> 姚明現在的程度如何？根據對nba教練的非正式意見調查，姚明在low-post球員當中，
> 僅次於俠客。（順便請問低位low-post是什麼意思？）
> (Where is Yao right now? An informal poll of the league's coaching staffs
> reveals that among the NBA's low-post players, Yao is second only to the
> Shaq-man,...)

low-post應該是說
在籃下的單打動作(一般叫做低位單打..就是背對籃框的單打動作)
姚明是僅次於俠客的


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發信人: Pacers@Palmarama (Go Go Pacers!!) 站內: Basketball
標 題: Re: Bill Walton: Shame on you, Shaq.
發信站: 台大計中椰林風情站 (Wed Jan 22 00:20:55 2003)


看到另一篇誇大其詞的報導，來自於聯合新聞網。
倘若只說姚明的功力，NBA各隊均不敢忽視，
派人重兵看守包夾，那就算了，的確也符合實情。
但是用什麼「致敬」、「升級」、「扯後腿」，實在是過火了。
說到「扯後腿」，只讓我覺得Francis 的表現，現階段對火箭比較重要。


NBA》向姚明致敬 雙塔包夾伺候

http://udn.com/NEWS/SPORTS/SPO2/1166973.shtml

【記者吳育光/綜合報導】
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上周，火箭隊超級中鋒姚明通過了湖人隊「複試官」歐尼爾的檢測，
今作客聖安東尼馬刺隊再遇「初試官」雙塔，因法蘭西斯全場投12中
1只得4分「扯後腿」，讓馬刺以87比82擊落火箭，贏得主場九連
勝，只是勝負並無損姚明「升級」。
這場姚明大戰「雙塔」的戲碼，是繼去年12月初戲耍雙塔（該役姚明
攻得27分18籃板，率隊以87比75贏球），也是繼上周火箭在延長賽
四分力克湖人後，姚明連續接受的「超級任務」考驗。姚明今上場24
分鐘得11分8籃板2助攻1火鍋，因法蘭西斯的熄火，使姚明陷於孤掌
難鳴險境，遂將今天的第一男主角送給馬刺隊鄧肯當。

鄧肯上場43分鐘攻得32分9籃板2助攻4火鍋，最後59秒兩隊平手，鄧
肯隨後的一次三分進擊，成為贏球關鍵，而馬刺隊羅賓森上場33分鐘
得14分7籃板2火鍋。「雙塔」今不斷對姚明進行包夾，也算是對姚
明的一種崇高的尊敬。


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發信人: carlwt@Palmarama (whatever) 站內: Basketball
標 題: Re: Bill Walton: Shame on you, Shaq.
發信站: 台大計中椰林風情站 (Wed Jan 22 03:39:56 2003)


這些報導不太客觀，
寫的人水準比很多業餘觀眾還差，
也許寫的人還要兼顧報社老闆的偏好，
畢竟那是人家的飯碗啊。

看看國外球評寫的會比較客觀，
圓球城市也不錯看 :)

==> Pacers (Go Go Pacers!!) 提到:
> 看到另一篇誇大其詞的報導，來自於聯合新聞網。
> 倘若只說姚明的功力，NBA各隊均不敢忽視，
> 派人重兵看守包夾，那就算了，的確也符合實情。
> 但是用什麼「致敬」、「升級」、「扯後腿」，實在是過火了。
> 說到「扯後腿」，只讓我覺得Francis 的表現，現階段對火箭比較重要。
> NBA》向姚明致敬 雙塔包夾伺候
> http://udn.com/NEWS/SPORTS/SPO2/1166973.shtml
> 【記者吳育光/綜合報導】


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發信人: crazyhorse@Palmarama (孤獨終老又何妨) 站內: Basketball
標 題: Re: Bill Walton: Shame on you, Shaq.
發信站: 台大計中椰林風情站 (Wed Jan 22 12:49:33 2003)

==> Pacers (Go Go Pacers!!) 提到:

(以上恕刪)

> 更不要說把姚明類比 NBA 史上所有超強中鋒的綜合體。
> 這些都不是我編出來的，火箭對上湖人那次比賽，聯合新聞網的報導，就是這個德行。

ㄜ....不好意思, 潛水艇小弟我要對這個部份說幾句話....
星期六那天我從早上十點半守著ESPN守到下午一點半,

isamu

呵呵
媒体和政府一旦联系起来影响还真是不一般

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其实，我心里还是很喜欢姚明的~不知道，你们看了和韩国队的那场球没？
要是没有他~。。。。。。。

估计他是50年才出一个的种

isamu

韩国一直在追赶中国
近几年似乎开始和中国处于同一水平了，但我不觉得
中国无论如何也比韩国高一个半个档次，被逼成那样还是自己的问题
诚然，姚明在中国无疑增加了中国在亚洲的优势

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人家韩国人牛B啊~
你看他们的三分~不管多远~不管有没有人干扰，反正没有瓢的~

我看的头发麻了~

没有大姚的中国队~绝对不是对手。
他们的猪教练不是说了嘛~给我们姚明~我们绝对是世界前8

isamu

中国队最怵的对手就是远投准的
比如悉尼奥运会，法国那三分真叫一个准！
但是真正的篮球还是中锋的比拼

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下面引用由isamu发表的内容： 中国队最怵的对手就是远投准的 比如悉尼奥运会，法国那三分真叫一个准！ 但是真正的篮球还是中锋的比拼

那是~不然，人家NBA怎么一天到晚说中锋少呢？
关键是球技可以练上去~身高怎么练啊？（也许，都应该试试我们这天天热播的增高产品哈~）

大饼先生

同感！

神仙

可爱的女孩~~~~~~~~~~

孤独永生

在爱与喜欢之间，没有明确的 界限！

丁丁柳橙

如果说喜欢是将一颗心穿上了层层外衣
那么爱上一个人就是将层层外衣脱去的过程……

木四oοΟ○

都挺好的！

我想我还处于喜欢的阶段吧

穆

晕，
一个个都是老手啊！！！

好蠢的鱼

听说喜欢会开心，而爱会伤痛~！！！

刘洋

有人喜欢我吗？有人爱我吗？？

月光倾城

它们之间很近很近的
至少我觉得!

楚楚

那就是说喜欢并不是爱，对吗？

我心依旧

很经典！看来我爱过也喜欢过，而且未曾混淆！
不过我不同意最后一句。
爱是付出，重在过程，而非结果，对方的幸福就是自己的幸福
——能达此境界者我还没有见到过几人！不过我算一人惭愧啊。。。。。。。

雪舞漫天飞

下面引用由刘洋发表的内容： 有人喜欢我吗？有人爱我吗？？

你走在路上塞给乞丐一毛钱，他会喜欢你
当你给他一百块的时候，他会爱死你！
呵呵~~~

一个人

楼上的好强～～～～～～～～～呵呵～～～～～